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Well, Chan for sure acted like a brat during Worlds. I even know Chan fans who think that.
And nearly everybody was bashing Joubert, starting with Kurt Browning and ending with unknown-poster-no.2985. It became the hip thing to do.
Posts like yours, brigichan, make it sound as if he can do nothing else, as if he has to sell his skating by presenting himself as a sexual object, which always sounds to me only slightly short of accusing him of prostituting himself to the judges. (something similar exists for Kostner, after last Worlds - where she was overmarked, I agree on that - there were threads on FSU and on Goldenskate that basically said that she only gets those points because she wears too short skirts and often has wedgie)
I don't even think that you meant it that way. But I am just sensitive these days and I am also pretty sure that there is a bias towards Joubert at work here, it's like propaganda gone wild: nobody listens to people, non-Joubert fans, who report from competitions that Joubert is simply stunning on ice, especially live, that he commands the ice like no other - people start saying that Joubert doesn't have good basic skating skills, but if you give them a video they are like; oh, must have been another skater I was thinking of - people keep saying that he has the worst spins ever, I show them a video of his great camel spin and they are like; oops, he can do that?
This was also hugely influenced by the press during the Worlds. The articles, even when they seemed to criticise Chan a bit, made Chan sound like the innocent vivacious cheeky teenager with all the talent in the World - and Joubert like a haughty arrogant bitter old queen whose best days are behind him and who, on the top of it, is from France! Then Kurt Browning, telling the press everything that is apparently wrong with Joubert, including details about their work relationship. During the programs the Canadian commentators kept underlining the weaknesses in Joubert's program - Joubert skated how he has always skated and the Canadian commentators never mentioned any of those complaints before. And somehow along the lines Evan Lysacek was turned into another artistic guy who also became suddenly so much better than Joubert in everything (I am sorry, but Lysacek? LYSACEK? The guy who is about as musical as my stuffed horse?).
I see Joubert's PCS dropping to the low seventies for the LP and the low thirties in the SP next season and of course off the podium at the Olympics. All that propaganda has to be good for something.
Well, Chan for sure acted like a brat during Worlds. I even know Chan fans who think that.
And nearly everybody was bashing Joubert, starting with Kurt Browning and ending with unknown-poster-no.2985. It became the hip thing to do.
Posts like yours, brigichan, make it sound as if he can do nothing else, as if he has to sell his skating by presenting himself as a sexual object, which always sounds to me only slightly short of accusing him of prostituting himself to the judges. (something similar exists for Kostner, after last Worlds - where she was overmarked, I agree on that - there were threads on FSU and on Goldenskate that basically said that she only gets those points because she wears too short skirts and often has wedgie)
I don't even think that you meant it that way. But I am just sensitive these days and I am also pretty sure that there is a bias towards Joubert at work here, it's like propaganda gone wild: nobody listens to people, non-Joubert fans, who report from competitions that Joubert is simply stunning on ice, especially live, that he commands the ice like no other - people start saying that Joubert doesn't have good basic skating skills, but if you give them a video they are like; oh, must have been another skater I was thinking of - people keep saying that he has the worst spins ever, I show them a video of his great camel spin and they are like; oops, he can do that?
This was also hugely influenced by the press during the Worlds. The articles, even when they seemed to criticise Chan a bit, made Chan sound like the innocent vivacious cheeky teenager with all the talent in the World - and Joubert like a haughty arrogant bitter old queen whose best days are behind him and who, on the top of it, is from France! Then Kurt Browning, telling the press everything that is apparently wrong with Joubert, including details about their work relationship. During the programs the Canadian commentators kept underlining the weaknesses in Joubert's program - Joubert skated how he has always skated and the Canadian commentators never mentioned any of those complaints before. And somehow along the lines Evan Lysacek was turned into another artistic guy who also became suddenly so much better than Joubert in everything (I am sorry, but Lysacek? LYSACEK? The guy who is about as musical as my stuffed horse?).
I see Joubert's PCS dropping to the low seventies for the LP and the low thirties in the SP next season and of course off the podium at the Olympics. All that propaganda has to be good for something.
