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Thanks Kristina! I am starting to wish as well that Johnny could just go home, hang up his skates (for a month or so), get healthy, and come back really
wanting to skate again. Now that he can't go anyway I just want him to rest.
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forerverhis053007 |
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At first, I went to Nationals to ONLY see Johnny, but shortly before I went I also realized that he could have withdrew and in any case I knew it would be a
new experience. I am glad I got to see him skate, but my heart breaks knowing how he did. I did love the experience SO much, that I already bought my tickets
to Spokane for next year. I might make this a yearly thing I go to even after Johnny retires.
It was probably a tough desision deciding who would go to worlds. Johnny placed 3rd at worlds last year, but Brandon had the silver at Nationals. AND Johnny placed 5th not 4th. I'm very torn about the decision about worlds. |
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Lady Vader |
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I personally agree with noria. I love Johnny, and I want him to do well, but I believe that they did make a fair decision on placing him as the first
alternate. As CarolM stated, Johnny was almost 38 points out of first, probably 35 points out of third...I feel for Johnny; I always do - but thirty-five
points is just a little bit to big of a margin for me to feel comfortable kicking Brandon Mroz out of his spot. Had the points been closer, had Evan done worse
than Johnny...had any number of things gone differently, USFSA would have been justified (and I would think almost forced) to place Johnny on the team.
Plus, with the whirlwind season of skate problems and sickness he's had, I'd rather see him ready to kick some serious butt in the Oly season than have had this sort of season next year and not have made it to Vancouver.
~Abs
*Keeper of Johnny's Voice* *Keeper of Johnny's 2005 Skate Canada Preformance* ****"God does not owe us an explanation for everything. Besides, explanations don't take away the pain. Even when we know why a tragedy happens, it still hurts. It is more helpful to ask 'How' and 'What.' How can I grow from this situation, and what does God want me to learn from it?" - Rick Warren*** |
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hummingbird2 |
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About the idea of Johnny withdrawing and asking for a medical bye, I don't recall a single time that's been allowed by USFS. After all, Keana just
skated with strep throat, knowiung she had to in order to have a chance for the world team. And several years ago, when Johnny withdrew from a GP in Moscow
(before he was popular, sorry at the moment I can't come up with the year) - he was "punished" by not being given any GP assignments for the next
year. So he really had to skate.
I am SO PROUD of our boy for doing the three combinations - he wasn't going to let himself down this time by not doing a jump! Kristina
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pippa |
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hummingbird2 wrote:But Tanith and Ben just asked for and received a medical bye to the World team after withdrawing from Nationals due to Ben's back injury. Pippa
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elise happyfeet |
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I agree with Sara. Like I've been saying, take a rest and wish for the best.
Sorry about my earlier post. I have a bad mouth. |
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stefarbalova |
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They sent Michelle Kwan to the 2006 Olympics, too.
The whole thing actually makes sense, even if I think it's totally unfair. Tanith and Ben have consistently been the best American ice dancers for 5 years. Their results in the GP this year were good. They were in front of Meryl and Charlie before they withdrew at GPF. And even if they won't place better then Meryl and Charlie at Worlds they are still certainly ahead of the rest of the field, by a lot. I think that Keauna and Rockne would have had a better chance at being sent to Worlds, had they withdrawn, than Johnny would have... They are obviously the best American pair and I doubt the federation expects Rena and John would place better than them. And they want to send as many pairs as possible to the Olympics... In men, however, I think the federation assumes Jeremy and Evan would place well enough to guarantee three spots for the US men at the Olympics. They probably also hope Brandon will place well. But if Evan and Jeremy are good enough, this doesn't really matter, does it? And it's clearly the rule to send the best three at Nationals. Why break the rules in this situation? I get it. I don't agree it's fair to have such rules. It's in the best interest of any federation to send its most hopeful skaters to the international competitions. But then again, would Nationals be the figure skating event of the year, if they did? They want their best skaters in it for the TV rankings and spectators and so on... Who would care to watch Nationals if much less was at stakes? And now Johnny is a victim of this system, a system that he actually voiced his approval of some time ago and even at this Nationals. This is one of the few things I don't agree with him about. But sometimes you have to experience something yourself in order to see that you've been wrong about it all along. Poor, poor Johnny! The saddest thing is that even looking at this situation as a lesson doesn't quite make it feel any better. That's just a lesson that doesn't really matter, at least as far as Johnny's skating is concerned. I am definitely not trying to say that I know how US figure skating should function better than the appointed officials. There may be countless reasons for it to be this way that I cannot even think of. What I am saying is that from a rational outsider point of view, the current system doesn't seem to be fair! My Personal Stuff: As to Worlds, I still can't believe Johnny probably won't be there. After Stephane and Buttle quit and Daisuke announced he was not goign to compete this season, Johnny was the only one of the single men I adore left. I love ice dancing. And I want to see all the skating. Just now the special treat of a favorite skater in the competition is gone. And Johnny's presence would certainly make up for the absence of all the rest, while anyone of them would not quite make up for Johnny's absence. And when you have the chance to see only one competition in the near years and you choose the wrong one, it hurts so much... Sorry for wasting your time with my personal story. I just needed to share it with someone who can understand.
Stef
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SkateFree1 |
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Aside from any personal consideration, the USFSA decision is wrong -- period.
That said, I'm concerned enough about Johnny's health that I think it may end up being the best thing for him if he takes advantage of that time to rest, regain his health, and then get back in shape. Going to Worlds now may not help him with that, but that's really not for me to say. As a matter of principle he should have been given the choice to decide that. |
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patinaj |
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i just couldn't believe it when i read it. i am so sad. part of the joy of watching the worlds is the fact that johnny will be there.
i think the american skating federation, or whatever the name is, stinks profoundly. i mean i would understand sanding brandon to 4 cc and let johnny rest a little and then send johnny to worlds. maybe brandon is a good skater, despite the fact that i can't stand him right now ( i am no objectiveness available in my brain for now ) but he is young and has all the time in the world to prove himself. and i think evan has been up and down just like johnny has been so i don't see how he is such a brilliant choice. i will not write much because i only have evil things to say now since i am angry. |
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hummingbird2 |
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Illness is not the same as injury, in terms of asking for a bye.
As for byes to Worlds for the medalists, that's certainly not an ISU rule. And it wouldn't be the first time that a World medalist didn't go the next year. The example that springs to my mind is Fumie, because I'm a big fan of hers. Silver medalist in 2006, no Worlds in 2007 or 2008. The problem is that neither Worlds nor the Olympics is for all the best skaters in the world to go; it's for the best skaters from each country. I think the USFS did everything they could for Johnny, but he just wasn't able to give them enough to work with. If he had skated well, if he had come in 4th - then maybe. But he didn't do either. They made him first alternate for Worlds when Ryan could say it should have been him. In other countries people complain when those who win national medals don't get to go to Worlds and their federations just select whom they will. (Some examples from France in recent years spring to mind.....) Of course, I'm not happy with the situation, either, and I think it's rather stupid on their part in terms of ticket sales, etc. for Worlds with Johnny's popularity. Kristina
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I'm not sure whether I think it is fair right now. I am way to biased at the moment to put out an objective decision. But, I do agree that with ticket
sales and best skaters, it may not have been the greatest idea. Johnny is popular, but so are other skaters such as Evan. Another thing that goes with ticket
sales is that they can't "play-up" on the Johnny/Evan rivalry. Whether or not it is right the media has taken that one pretty far and I think it
probably made a difference in skating sales. Now that Johnny is not going (so far), they might not get those who buy ticket just because of the medias play of
Johnny/Evan rivarly.
Just my two cents (but it's probably not even worth that much Audi |
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carolm |
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I'm going with the quote attributed to that famous baseball philosopher Yogi Berra who once said, "It's not over til it's over."
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pairsskater |
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hmmm...Carol...I've been thinking the same thing. But I'm a dreamer. I imagine Johnny practicing "just in case" and then receiving a call
last minute to pack his bags.
But my "reality check" twin knows the other guys want to go as much as Johnny does, will probably be in good
health and it's an unlikely scenario. My "evil twin" (or is that a triplet) wants him to go because someone else can't--for whatever reason,
and then win a medal, just to show USFSA they had made a mistake leaving him off the team in the first place.
I think it's ironic that at last years worlds he said something like (when asked if how he was handling pressure to get 3rd spot for men this year) he didn't care how many spots the US had..as long as one of them was for him.
Joanne
...Keeper of Johnny's changing hairstyles
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rondo |
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Another dreamer here as well. I can't quite help it... I'm still hoping for a miracle, but of course I don't wish anything bad to happen to anybody
else either. Maybe I'll just have to get used to the idea of Worlds without Johnny.
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fra |
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That's quite reassuring, I thought I was the only one who hoped in some last minute good news.... I do not wish injuries to anybody either, but, who knows,
if results from 4C are well below expectations maybe the federation will decide to substitute one member of the team with the first alternate (proven Johnny
will be healthy of course)...
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forerverhis053007 |
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Anything is possible, I guess. I wouldn't want someone seriously hurt, but I'd like to see him go. Ughhhh... what a bitter-sweet thing it would be if
he could go!
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fra |
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Did you read this from today's Icenetwork news about their new rankings?
Having not fully recovered from his illness over the holidays and dealing with boot issues, the reigning world bronze medalist finished only fifth at U.S. nationals. So, despite winning three medals on the 2008 Grand Prix Series, he was left off the U.S. World Team. He's scheduled to skate at Four C's, where a good performance could make up for Cleveland. Is it true?? |
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LizMarch |
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I doubt Johnny will go. He´s the 2. Alternate (Ryan is the first) plus his healthproblems won´t allow him to go anyway.
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I can't find this news on Icenetwork, could somebody be so kind to post the link here?
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